Google is ignoring me.....

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grandad

grandad

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I launched a site at the begining of last month - Part Two Luxury Motor Yacht Charters - The experience of a lifetime [client's choice of name - not mine].

I registered it with Google, but so far not a sniff. It's been spidered by the usual other suspects -Intomi, MSN and the like, but not Google.

I launched another site less than a week ago [www.monicawalsh.com] and Google has already spidered it three times.

Has Google got something against maritime sites? Has anyone else had this problem?
 
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RedCardinal

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richardo said:
I launched a site at the begining of last month - Part Two Luxury Motor Yacht Charters - The experience of a lifetime [client's choice of name - not mine].

I registered it with Google, but so far not a sniff. It's been spidered by the usual other suspects -Intomi, MSN and the like, but not Google.

I launched another site less than a week ago [www.monicawalsh.com] and Google has already spidered it three times.

Has Google got something against maritime sites? Has anyone else had this problem?
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One piece of advice is not to bother using the Google submission tool.

Your site has PR5 - just stick something on your homepage with latest sites or maybe a small link in the footer. I presume that Google is spidering your site farily regularly? [sorry just noticed you have a portfolio page that is coming up in site explorer]

From what I've seen if you want to get Google over to a site quickly the best bet is to create one or two decent PR backlinks to that site and Google will pick it up pretty quick.

Not sure why one site is spidered and the other not. One thing I found is doctor healer network directory - NewAge118.co.uk
which seems to be a scrapper site of some discription. [edit - actually its a MFA site now that I look at it]

Google might have picked it up there.

Generally if a new site has little or no backlinks then it can take an age to get spidered never mind listed.
 
grandad

grandad

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Thanks for that Richard.

Yes. It ocurred to me after that MonicaWalsh had links to it from other sites. PartTwo has links from my portfolio and from Golden Pages [and now from IrishWebmasterForum :D ] but is still being ignored. Strange.

I guess I just have to sit back and wait.........
 
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RedCardinal

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hmm

just looking at your metas:
<meta name="revisit-after" content="30 days" />

any reason for this? Maybe Google spidered you once (are you sure that Google has never set foot on the site?) and is following your instruction to leave it for 30 days?

You can safely remove this tag as Google is less than likely to bombard a site with limited inbound links.
Rgds

Richard
 
grandad

grandad

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Tag removed.

That came about through laziness :rolleyes: . I have a library of cut-and-paste code and that crept in there somehow.

Thanks for that.
 
grandad

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A wee update (?) on this. PartTwo has now been up and running since the 7th July. It is a little sparse on referring links yet, but is linked from my own site [which is regularly spidered] and from Golden Pages. Yet Google still hasn't visited.

I have never come across this before. Most times, when I launch a site, Google is there within days and visits regularly after.

Am I being impatient? Am I right to be concerned? Am I being paranoid or are Google just out to get me?
 
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RedCardinal

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Good morning!

First off how are you determining that google hasn't visited you? via the raw logs?

site: command shows a homepage but I see that: [SIZE=-1]

Date Created: Sat Nov 13 12:01:23 2004.

I presume this was a site re-design?

very strange. the Google cache seems a little weird:
hxxp://72.14.221.104/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&rls=GGGL%2CGGGL%3A2006-17%2CGGGL%3Aen&q=cache%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.parttwocharters.com%2F&btnG=Searchhttp://parttwocharters.com

[change xx to tt]

and note:

[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]This is G o o g l e's cache of http://www.parttwocharters.com/ as retrieved on 18 Jun 2006 19:20:28 GMT.

So google was there on June 18.

[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]It might be coincidence but I have a site that has some problems and the date is the exact same. Sitemaps tells me that the site in question had it's homepage last spidered on June 18 and has not updated since.

The site has about 100 backlinks and is indexed well in Google. It appears in the SERPs but the cached version is from June 18.

I think there may have been a bad data push from Google TBH and this will normally sort itself out. Nothing much you can do for the moment unfortunately.

Actually, have you set up google sitemaps? At least this would tell you if your pages are being spidered.
[/SIZE]
 
grandad

grandad

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Yes. Raw logfiles, and stats analysis.

The domain and account were originally set up on the 13th November 2004 and were used for e-mail only. Hence the holding page that Google has cached. That holding page was replaced by the site last month [since the cache was generated].

MSNBot is hitting the site on a regular basis, while Inktomi, psbot and SurveyBot have also had a sniff around.

Maybe Google visited the site over the years and decided that there was only a holding page there, and hasn't bothered coming back?!

I guess I'll just have to be patient :confused:
 
mneylon

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I've seen similar things happen with some of my sites where Google visits once and doesn't bother coming back again, so you feel you are ignored. It doesn't last forever :)
 
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louie

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That's very strange. Google doesn't really ignores you unless the content is not really important.

Looking at the catched page Google has, it wasn't something to write home about, so they might give you another shot in the coming weeks. Make sure you are ready for it.

Add this meta tag back to your pages as follows:

<meta name="revisit-after" content="7 days" />

Is better to have it then not to.
Make sure you have a robots.txt file on your server.

Add a title tag to you links like this:

Code: 
<a href="cruises.php" title="cruises ... more text">Cruises</a>

Add a better alt tag description to your images. alt="part two" or alt="image1" doesn't make sense for what your website is about.

If you know how, use divs instead of tables as much as you can.

Hope this help.
 
grandad

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Thanks for all the help lads.

Meta tag has been replaced.
Robots.txt is in place [that always goes up with the site].

The link titles and alt tags will have to wait a bit as I'm about to shut up shop for three weeks, but in the meantime I'll get the client to find relevant sites where he wants links.

I know the div/table arguments, but will stick with what I have for the moment.

Maybe when I return, the site will be #1 in the rankings anyway :rolleyes:
 
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RedCardinal

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If you want to improve the chances of google spidering then you could try creating some links from on-topic sites (boating/yachting clubs?).

At the moment the link: command on Yahoo shows only your site which would probably be deemed as unreleted. One link really isn't enough. Don't add too many, but maybe another 4 or 5 initially, and then a couple more over the coming weeks.

Even add the site to a couple of directories and see if googlebot comes back.
 
grandad

grandad

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If you want to improve the chances of google spidering then you could try creating some links from on-topic sites (boating/yachting clubs?).
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As I say, I'll get the client to sniff around and find some suitable sites. He would know better that I, which sites to go for.
 
grandad

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A final update on this one.

Google finally had a brief visit on the 31st August. Though it still hasn't updated its info. It is still displaying summary info from the pre-launch site and isn't displaying the page title. It visited again this month, but for some reason it just doesn't like the site :(
 
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