What price do you charge?

How much do you charge for a standard brochure website (read spec below first)?

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larryusa

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ripe.ie

Hi guys

I just read over your comments on the boards,,i was looking for ripe ncc in holland and i googled ripe.ie

From their name and marketing stategy they will do ok,as their site looks cool, and user friendly,but i dont think corporate companies seeking a heavy weight web site will not be steered towards cost cutting web companies to save a few bucks.

so no need for panic and keep the chin up.

Larry
 
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fobby

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TheMenace said:
Ripe is miles off the mark to the point of being utterly incompetent cowboys. Even for the money you paid, you should have expected a professional service. If Ripe can't deliver a professional service, then they should stop pretending they can... regardless of how cheap they are.
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totally independent on this one as I don't know the company. Just wondering what you based this quote on, have you experience working with them, I don't see any of their clients listed on their website either, what work have they done ?
 
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TheMenace

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fobby said:
totally independent on this one as I don't know the company. Just wondering what you based this quote on, have you experience working with them, I don't see any of their clients listed on their website either, what work have they done ?
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Well I'm basing my judgement on several things:

  • They spam message boards in order to sell their services.
  • Their own website is an off-the-shelf template.
  • They make cheap, unfounded claims against their competition on their own site and have the audacity to cheapen the industry by making light of the skills and expertise involved. Skills, expertise and talent, I might add, that they are very much lacking themselves.
  • The dummy sites in their portfolio are templates - I can only assume, if they're using templates for their own web presence, that they do the same for their clients.
  • Web design should be left to professionals. If you are going to design websites at knock-down prices then more power to you but you should at least employ web standards.
I could go on?
 
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fobby

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Are you sure that their website is a template ? O wait ....

Website Template #11330 by Svelte


... yea guess the issue is using the templates directly which don't validate, fairly new to this myself but from a customers perspective, is it that bad that they receive a cheap website, that for them looks ok, when they never heard of web standards, I think that if they halved their price this might be ok ?? (including 1 year hosting and .ie domain)
 
mneylon

mneylon

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If they were selling themselves as bargain basement web sites (I won't say design, since they obviously aren't designing anything) it would be a different matter
 
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TheMenace

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fobby said:
is it that bad that they receive a cheap website, that for them looks ok, when they never heard of web standards, I think that if they halved their price this might be ok?? (including 1 year hosting and .ie domain)
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Yes, it is that bad. If they were completely transparent and honest and they didn't try to punch in the same weight as their competitors maybe. Rather than having a po-faced 'competitors' section where they sell a high-handed view of an industry that they don't understand, they should dedicate a section of their site to explain why their sites are so cheap:

1) We use off-the-shelf templates that cost about 10% of what we charge and dozens or even hundreds of other companies could have the very same website as you.

2) We ignore web standards, accessibility and best practice. This will mean that your site is not future-proofed, you could potentially lose a sizable number of customers, maintenance is more costly and difficult... the list could go on forever.

3) We do not optimise your site for search engines, losing you potential mass footfall.

Is it okay to sell a woman a car with no brake pads if she doesn't know what brake pads are?
 
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enzo

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redflystudios said:
I guess there will always be DW/FP "Designers".
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Ok FP I totally agree. But are you saying DW users are not "designers"? I understood that the majority of web design companies use DW. Which is why I downloaded it recently to learn how to us it (i usually do everything by hand .. coding I mean, dirty minded feckers).
 
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gary.b

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DreamWeaver is very "Meh" - it's good for some things - but nothing beats clean code in a good text editor & refreshing your pages in 3 or 4 different browsers and trying to get that damn <div> to align...
 
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davidbehan

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Not to divert from the original subject but I use DW (or sometimes notepad2) and simply because I have been using it since DW3. I like the split code/design view, I'm used to the colour coding in code view, I like the project in one area with integrated ftp, etc. I hand code everything these days and don't use the DW generated code but I did when I wanted/needed to learn it.

And yes... I know of a lot of top web companies who use DW on the design team and VWD for the development team.
 
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enzo

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TheMenace said:
I'm more of an EditPlus man myself.
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I've always used HTML-Kit, flippin great program. colourizer for any language, autocomplete to speed up writing code, IE/Gecko side by side previews, integrated ftp, hundreds of plugins, integrates very well with the Top Style css editor etc etc.
 
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Dotwebs

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Ah this was a good thread - why did it have to end?
Abby Lynch said:
I am just trying to share my experience as a customer. I'm just letting you know that I'm happy paying that for the service that I got. I am just a small business and can't afford to pay more than what I have paid. Everything seemed clear enough to me when they showed me the templates. Did I do anything wrong???
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Where's Abby gone - I wanted to see her site? ;)
 
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