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lostie

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hey guys, I know it sometimes happens that PR can drop and it just to be a glitch or something, but yesterday my site (Micromail - Homepage - Software Licensing - Computer Books - Windows Vista - Office 2007) dropped from a PR 6 on its main page to a PR 0. It then went back to a PR 6 for a while and now its stuck on PR 0 again. Every other page in the site has gone to PR 0 aswell and although im sure its nothing to worry about its starting to unnerve me a little now. Thankfully we're still being indexed and our SERPS havent been effected, but I cant think what could have gone wrong. Ive checked multiple datacentre sites and they all list the page as PR 0 with the exception of one or two who list it as a 6. And im guessing its not a PR update so whats gone wong? Any help much appreciated!
 

georgiecasey

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Weird alright. I wouldn't be worried as site: and link: still show stuff. And your site doesn't look like one that would get banned. Some glitch I suppose
 

mneylon

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Well the obvious explanation is that you are promoting the wrong domain

Your .com is relatively unknown, though you've started promoting to some of the Irish web directories.

The .ie domain is the one that the company has owned for years and would have the most backlinks etc., and is currently showing a PR of 6.

Simple solution - stop trying to promote the .com and use a 301 redirect to push everything for the .com back to the .ie
 

lostie

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Nope, thats out of the question. Im new to to the company as a webmaster so i dont know the history of the domains, but I do know we're set on only using the .com domain. As it is, I think the .ie domain directs to the .com domain, so switching the rediect would only further comlicate what isint a very big problem. Its impossible that our .com PR is supposed to be zero as we have hundreds of really good backlinks, including from microsoft and adobe who we're partners with. The only thing I can think of is to play the waiting game and see what happens, if there's been no offical general updating of PR then its gotta be a glitch or something, so at the moment its googles problem and not mine, we'll still get traffic as long as our index ranking is good and its as good as ever at the moment.
 

lostie

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What does that mean? Just that they're the same site with 2 different domains? Anyway im sure you'll agree that the PR will probably go back to 6 soon enough so its not worth taking any big steps such as that?
 

mneylon

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What does that mean? Just that they're the same site with 2 different domains? Anyway im sure you'll agree that the PR will probably go back to 6 soon enough so its not worth taking any big steps such as that?
I think you need to read up more on SEO
 

lostie

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I think you need to read up more on SEO
I'll put my hand up and admit 3 months ago I didnt even know what SEO stood for so naturally Im no where near the level of you guy's - hence the questions. But Ive read a lot in the 3 monthsand done a lot to the site and now we're ranking top in the irish google searches for big software keywords so i dont think im doing too bad a job. So I obviously do need to learn a lot more about SEO but the only way I can get there is for people to answer my questions, no matter how stupid they might be! :confused:
 

lostie

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Or hire a specialist....
Why hire a specialist when you can do it yourself? as i said, I think im doing a pretty good job considering how new i am to the scene, you have to admit the zero PR most likely has nothing to do with me and could just as easily happen to anyone else's site?
 

lostie

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What perfect timing to annouce that my site is back with a PR of 6 again. Thats noob 1 pro's 0. (ok i know its so not but come on you gotta let me have this one!):)
 

glengara

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Fistly welcome to the wonderful world of SEO and congratulations on your achievements to date, but if I might introduce a note of caution.... I'd focus less on the PR numbers they can be deceptive, I tried "software licensing" +/- Ireland and couldn't see you in the top 50 in the G web search. Most of the .com pages are supplemental, probably due to G having indexed the .ie ones first, the 301 BN suggested should fix that. Lastly an awful lot of your content is duplicated elsewhere on the web, it may be an idea to create some original content, perhaps Ireland specific stuff...
 

lostie

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Firstly (;) ), thanks for the tips. Im doing a mix of updating the sites html, learning vb, and Seo all at once for the site, so seo hasnt been my only concentration. But its great to finally get a bit of feedback from experts on it cos its the only way i'll learn. your right about not appearing in the top 50 for "software licensing" on a worlwide search (a highly compeditive phrase you may agree), currently im concentrating on getting high rankings in irish only searches (i would think if people want software licences they'd want to deal with an irish company and would do an irish search), and we're top for searches like "office 2007" "microsoft licensing" "microsoft office" "adobe licensing" etc and top 10 in worldwide google search for searches such as "adobe tlp" "adobe clp" and even "adobe licensing". So you think I should redirect the .ie to the .com? About the duplicated content (i have no idea how you know about that) we have over 4000 products for sale online and dont have the time to write a unique piece on each one so its taken off the vendors site. Everything else on the site is relatively unique and our backlinks are good. Any other tips much appreciated.
 

lostie

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oh and we're high in the top 10 for google searches of adobe licensing ireland and microsoft licensing ireland. thats not bad surely?
 

mneylon

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oh and we're high in the top 10 for google searches of adobe licensing ireland and microsoft licensing ireland. thats not bad surely?

Depends on whether:

1 - People search for those terms. You may think that they do, but people won't necessarily use the terms that you're thinking of

2 - Are those the most profitable product lines?

3 - What happens when people don't append "ireland" to the search string?
 
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