How to register .ie domains for a blog network?

Discussion in 'Hosting' started by spagettilegs, Aug 1, 2013.

  1. spagettilegs

    spagettilegs New Member

    Hi Guys,
    I've built a method of finding hundreds of expired .ie domains all of which have a PR of 5+. The problem is, when you register each one with the IEDR you need official ID which is fine, but for building a blog network, thats one obvious footprint screaming out to Google. Is there a way of registering a .ie domain without having the same owner details for every domain?
     
  2. fafanqll

    fafanqll New Member

    PR can disappear in a few days after capture and change the content :p
     
  3. spagettilegs

    spagettilegs New Member

    Not sure what you mean there. If the backlinks to the site are legitimate and stay in place, then they will never lose the their PR. Don't forget, PR is based purely on the linking structure and has nothing to do with content, apart from that, Google only updates it's PR two - three times a year so you would be unlucky to lose it within a couple of days!:chuncky:
     
  4. Satanta

    Satanta New Member

    Not true. If Google identify a change in ownership/significant change in content they can (and will and do) devalue all links identified prior to the change being observed. This was a required change to the algorithm once buying expired domains become a 'marketing' tactic. It's not providing value or benefit for the end user, there viewed as attempted manipulation by the search engines. As it happens naturally in many cases, they can't 'hurt' or 'ban' domains for using this tactic, but they can devalue the links.

    It'd be worth doing a bit more reading up on what you're doing and getting into before you go to the effort of building a blog network. PR is updated continually. The problem you face is that you never see the true PR for your site. A handful of times a year Google may update the "toolbar PR" (tPR) which is visible, but that isn't what's used in the algorithms. Google have in the past also admitted to playing around with tPR in order to 'mess around' with spammers and attempted search engine manipulation, so it really isn't a meaningful measure of anything. It's a snapshot of your PR at one moment in time, which is already out of date by the time the forums go nuts with people freaking out about their latest rise/fall in PR rather than focusing on something meaningful and actionable for their sites.
     
  5. spagettilegs

    spagettilegs New Member

    I don't believe change of ownership is an issue, particularly if domain ownership information is private. I've bought many hundreds of domains over the years, moved registrars, countries, with complete changes to the whois and NEVER had an issue with Google because of it. I'm not sure where this came from but it's a complete myth. Thousands of domains change hands every day of the week legitimately. Why would Google penalise that?

    As for change in content, as long as the change is relevant, you can change it 100% and again it's not an issue either.Obviously changing a site from one about health to motor car parts isn't a wise thing to do and your begging for a domain reset. I've been building blog networks for years and if done properly, with care it's not a problem.

    You are right about PR. Personally I just use it as an initial gauge when investigating sites. It's not something I personally put a lot of faith in. Authority and a detailed examination of backlinks is they key.
     
  6. jmcc

    jmcc Active Member

    Let's assume for a moment that you can prove entitlement to each of these .ie domain names (after the Eubrowser cybersquatting efforts a few years ago, IEDR might be paying more attention to bulk registrations). The real problem that you have is that your proposed blog network would stand out like a sore thumb even to the relatively unsophisticated anti-spam efforts of Google. It uses a combination of methods, not limited to the somewhat unreliable WHOIS data, to detect such networks. Google also may zero PR when a domain name drops.

    To a search engine developer (people who build search engines rather than people who just do SEO), a change of ownership on a site is actually quite apparent. Now to the average web developer, there may not be much difference but simple things like directory structure, word frequencies and distances, webserver, webserver IP, webserver IP ownership, outbound links and inbound links may change. What may go completely unnoticed by SEOs and web developers is the change at analytics level if Google Analytics was being used (and it is the most common analytics package).

    The other aspect is that the Irish web is unusual in terms of interlinking. SEO is comparatively rare and interlinking at index page level is not as common as it once was.

    Regards...jmcc
     
  7. paul

    paul Ninja

  8. mneylon

    mneylon Administrator Staff Member

    Providing false data for a domain registration (in any extension) is grounds to have the domain name suspended or deleted.
     

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